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warcrest · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

'Cause you can't create levels in Freeworld3d and Deled considers wiggling a few vertices landscape generation.

Paul-Jan · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:21 am Post subject:

I have two concerns over this request:

1. According to the FreeWorld3D specification, it is a world editor supporting the import of many mesh file formats, so are your sure the workflow shouldn't be the other way around? As in, you create your meshes in DeleD, then create your world in FreeWorld3D, place your models, and export it from there?

2. Doesn't FreeWorld3D export massive terrains? DeleD 3D is a low-med polygon editor, loading a couple billion of terrain data vertices won't really work...

I haven't got any in-depth knowledge about FreeWorld3D, so if both concerns are non-issues please say so!

warcrest · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

Not a world editor, no.(Although they say it is.) It's a terrain generator with object placement capabilities, supporting a few formats for importing.

It supports terrain resolutions up to 2048x2048, but as small as 32x32. OK, 2048x2048 is massive.

It can export to Ogre.

Right now my current pipeline consists of l3dt -> freeworld3d(using the heightmap and base textures). Once modified with freeworld -> Max(using the heightmap) to delete any unsuspecting polys to make way for outdoor to indoor transitions.

Everything uses the heightmap.
Can I change this request to have DeleD support heightmaps?[/i]

Daaark · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject:

The feature page says it can do .3ds, ,obj, and .x. All formats DeleD can already import.
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warcrest · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

It can only import those file formats so you can place those meshes on the terrain. The only thing it exports to is a generic ascii or xml(which only points to the heightmap and textures used) and ogre.

I wanna load a terrain and build my levels on/in it.

I know, that's why people have a dozen different programs, 'cause this one doesn't do that and that one doesn't do this. Wouldn't it be nice to have one program that does it all?

Daaark · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject:

Paul-Jan · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject:

Nah, Daaark, I tried that once and it doesn't manage my e-mail, nor does it do version management for my design documents. I mean, "do it all" really means "do it all", right? Smile

jwatte · DeleD PRO user Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 513

Do it all!

warcrest · DeleD PRO user Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

Hehehe. Well, Daaark, that would be nice, but for only a few bucks more, I could buy a small country, which is what I'm really saving up for.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't bashin' anything, it's just hard to find something that allows me to work the way I envision the work being done. In this case, literally from the virtual ground up(or down).
Generate a terrain, cut it up into manageable pieces, build my levels on(or in) those sections and place my entities/detail meshes/waypoints/triggers. Then all I have to do is call each section in code when the character object trips the right triggers and Poof! there it is.

Terrain generators don't allow for deleting faces for those outdoor to indoor transitions, which is why I need to import it into a mesh editor. Yeah, I could put doors which trigger the engine to load the next piece, but that detracts from a game imo. I'm going for something like Dungeon Siege that loads sections as the character nears them without having to stop and watch a loading screen.