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[Daaark]

Are you still redesigning the file format? I had a few ideas for fields.

For the whole map / dpf

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Very helpful, especially when you include the work of others in DeleD, or users put their files up for download on their own. Granada and Fletcher have contributed a lot of files, we could see their names on their work, and whatever they had to say about it in the comments.

Sometimes with a prefab, you might want to write something to specify how to make best use of it.

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For every object / material / light
A userinfo (very usefull)

The lights and materials right now really suffer from the lack of a tag. Sometimes on materials you want to specify some extra properties like shader names, alpha masking, gl material settings, sphere mapping etc..

Same with lights, there is an endless amount of properties we could assign to them for our own use, like marking some of them as being the lights we'd set up to light our models that are moving in the map, or their specular, ambient and other properties.

No blanks in the file? So much easier to just load some -1s or 0s then to make a bunch of conditionals all over.
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[Jeroen]

Thanks - those are some really good ideas and we should be able to fit them into the new format.

If you (or anybody else for that matter) got more suggestions, please do tell!

[trucker2000]

Remove the extra textures.
Every dmf has the default textures listed, even when they are never used.
It gets to be a hassel in some engines as they require all the textures to be included when only a few are actually used.
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[jwatte]

A way for plugins to store (close to) arbitrary data "attached" to the file, and "attached" to each object.
Great for preferences and special mark-up and such.

Note that a "userdata" isn't good enough, because there might be more than one plug-in that wants to store its own data, so the data should be tagged with the plug-in name.

[Daaark]

[jwatte]

[Paul-Jan]

@Trucker: The reason why those textures listed there is that they are the available 'palette' of textures. When I pick a set of materials to use, and save my map and reopen the next day to continu modeling, I don't want all of those materials to disappear.

Those engines should simply get their facts straight, and not load unused textures. Currently they need to perform a reference check to do so (which is not very hard to do nor very time-consuming), but in the next file format revision the 'isUsed' flag will (finally) be active. That should solve all problems.

As a little extra, we could build in some 'strip unused information from DMF' option, but I'm still not too sure whether we should propagate the use of DMF files as a final format, even though some 3rd party engines now directly support it.

@all others: nice ideas, keep 'm coming

[Daaark]

[Paul-Jan]

Trucker is on PRO, so no need to go and edit files by hand. Just create a nice default set of materials in the Material Editor, hit the "Save to DML" button in the upper right corner of the Material Editor, and overwrite the default.dml.

But even without a large set of default materials, you are bound to end up with currently unused materials somewhere during the modeling process.

[Mr.Fletcher]

Camera Position? And the background images + properties, as said in the testers forums.
More doesn't get into my mind right now
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